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List your Gripes with the Roomba vacuum

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Before going on, this isn't a Roomba bashing thread. I just want to hear your gripes about your Roomba. I think that they are great little machines, but here are some things that bug me:

1. Stair performance: Good most of the time, but I can't leave it alone in a room with stairs. I am currently staying in split-level 2-story condo. It's kind of designed weird, with steps going down into different sections of the room and into different sections of the condo (think of it as a skinny vertical apartment). I'm watching it do a cleaning cycle as I type this and I've already seen it have 3 problems with the stairs: (1) it will go too fast head-on and kind of trip into a balancing act at an angle on the stairs and beep at me, (2) it will simply fall off the stairs (it just did a full flip onto the next floor and started vacuuming again, lol), and (3) a tire will slip off the edge and hang down, prevent the Roomba from moving. I think that this problem could be solved with the addition of a long-range cliff sensor, maybe an IR beam that shoots out from the existing receiver on top of the Roomba to see if the floor is level a foor or two in front of the Roomba. As I understand it, the Roomba already has a wall-detecting system, so why not a long-range cliff-detecting system?

2. Small dust bin: My dust bin fills up whenever it cleans up one room. I can't really think of a solution to this, however. They can't make the dustbin bigger without making the Roomba bigger - and we don't want that because it fits under furniture and other areas so well now. On the flip side, I really love how easy the Roomba is to clean - the dustbin is cake to empty and the bristles pop right off for easy maintenance.

3. Cord problems: My Roomba likes to drag around cords. It won't eat them, but it likes to suck on them and take them with it on trips around the room. Maybe iRobot could implement a line-following system so it doesn't eat your lamp or stereo cords. My other gripe here is the home base, which requires the normal charger to be plugged into it. It's a nice money-saving design for iRobot, but now I have 6+ feet of cable with a power brick scrunched up next to my home base...it not only looks unsightly but the Roomba tries to eat the wires when it's vacuuming near the base. This is more of a personal gripe because I can see the long cord being useful for certain areas of the home where a power plug isn't nearby. If they could integrate the power brick into the home base, that would be awesome. I'd also like to see some kind of cable management system. A self-winding system would be great but probably too complicated and expensive for such a little device, so maybe there could be some prongs to wrap the excess cord around the back of the base like an upright vacuum system has.

4. Virtual wall field: My Roomba won't go anywhere near the Virtual Wall. It's like it shoots out a huge cone-shaped field...I can distinctly see where the Roomba avoided the Virtual Wall, which I placed in the kitchen so that it would stay in the dining room. I'd like to see a Virtual Wall with a more focused beam. I've also read of issues where the Roomba doesn't see the wall and goes right past it. Maybe if they put in multiple IR emitters, like one above and one below the existing one in the Virtual Wall, then it would cover a broader vertical range to ensure that the receiver on the Roomba gets hit, regardless of the height of where the receiver is.

5. Poor battery life: This is one of the things I'm most disappointed by. My rooms aren't particularly big, but the APS battery is nearly completely drained after doing a single room. I guess there's not really much to be done with this issue at the moment, however. The Roomba has it's own processing system and sensors along with a drivetrain and a vacuum system, so it's a wonder it lasts as long as it does now.

6. Short ceiling detection: My Roomba has lost power in some of the oddest places. The other day I found it chilling under a couch. I would like to see some sort of "short ceiling detector", like an IR beam that shoots out of the top of the receiver to see where the ceiling is. If it detects anything that within maybe 12" from the top of the robot, then it will drive itself to a more open area before quitting. I'd love to get a Roomba for my grandma, but when I took it over to her house it decided to pass out all the way under one of her couches. She's older and couldn't bend far enough to get it and wasn't strong enough to move the couch herself. I could solve this by putting a 2x4 under the front flap, but you get the idea - couches aren't the only places it can hide!

7. Anti-stuck system: My Roomba has gotten itself stuck in some of the dumbest places. In the last cleaning cycle, it got stuck between the piano bench and one of the piano legs (upright piano). It kept spinning itself around to get out but couldn't figure out how. I think if they implement a TiVo feature - 15-second instant replay - they could solve many situations where the Roomba gets stuck. For example, if my Roomba had recorded the last 15 seconds of how/where it drove around, then it could simply reverse those directions to get itself out of being stuck. It obviously wouldn't work for all situations, like if it got stuck on a thick rug, but it could help out if it gets trapped under a chair or table. Also, I think a "power-push" system would be nice - one or two of my rugs are just thick enough that the Roomba can't get over them sometimes, but if the Roomba could give a temporary "turbo boost" to push itself up and over, it would be fine. One last solution, possibly putting a small gyro on the rear of the Roomba for when it gets stuck on a lamp base or when it's balancing on the edge of the stairs, so it could flip the back end down and back itself out.

8. Improved weight distribution: This could also be titled, lighter wheels. This is a tricky one. My particular carpet is kind of a medium off-white carpet. It looks and feels nice, but the Roomba leaves tracks EVERYWHERE. It looks like we've been moving furniture around on the carpet all day when the Roomba is done. However, my grandma has thinner off-white carpet and you can hardly tell where the Roomba was, aside from the occasional circular vacuuming pattern that the beater brush left in the rug. That actually looks kind of nice, it gives you that "this room has just been vacuumed" feel. I'd like them to release a Roomba that makes it look like a tiny tank hasn't drive all over my carpet. Lucky for me this place is only temporary and I will be moving in a year or two.

I've only had the Roomba for a couple days now and I love it, although after reading this post you might not think so :P I think that what I'm mainly looking for is improvements in the automation side of things so that the Roomba would be a lower hassle to place in a room. I won't let my Roomba work in a room with stairs unless I'm doing something in an adjacent room, because I don't trust it not to get screwed up and fall down or get stuck. I don't mind clearing out the chairs and other movable obstacles, but I can't do much about stairs or huge wad of home base wiring. So...what improvements would you like to see?
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#7 is my biggest problem. Oriental rug fringes bother me the most. I've got them taped under the edges so they aren't a problem. The oddest part is I have 3 places that the Roomba gets stuck on occasionally. For about 2 weeks, it won't get stuck anywhere, completes its cleaning cycle and redocks. Then all of a sudden it will get stuck on one of these 3 places, I'll remove it, restart it and then it seems to get stuck in the same location, sometimes more than once. Then it'll go another couple weeks before getting stuck somewhere...

I would also add that the thickness of shag is a limiting factor. Maybe create a sort of hydraulic system to lift it up slightly to be able to clean the deeper shag carpet.

I would like for it to be able to clean for at least 5-10 cycles before needing to clean and maintain the unit. Since it's new technology, I don't mind it nearly as much.
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greyhound wrote:#7 is my biggest problem. Oriental rug fringes bother me the most. I've got them taped under the edges so they aren't a problem. The oddest part is I have 3 places that the Roomba gets stuck on occasionally. For about 2 weeks, it won't get stuck anywhere, completes its cleaning cycle and redocks. Then all of a sudden it will get stuck on one of these 3 places, I'll remove it, restart it and then it seems to get stuck in the same location, sometimes more than once. Then it'll go another couple weeks before getting stuck somewhere...

I would also add that the thickness of shag is a limiting factor. Maybe create a sort of hydraulic system to lift it up slightly to be able to clean the deeper shag carpet.

I would like for it to be able to clean for at least 5-10 cycles before needing to clean and maintain the unit. Since it's new technology, I don't mind it nearly as much.
Yeah, I just ran in it a bedroom with one of those cylindrical upright floor fans and it kept getting stuck on the sloped base. It's only about 10" in diameter, but the Roomba kept trying to climb up on it. I think I might build some small wooden fences to drop in around the problems areas, or perhaps keep some short 2x4's nearby to toss in front of stairs and various obstacles. Kind of a lame solution though.

I agree about the cleaning part, but since the Roomba itself is so compact that poses a bit of a problem. If they could implement some sort of vacuum-suction motor system inside the bin, they could theoretically compress the dirt and crud inside so it could go longer between cleanings. I don't have much to complain about in this area because I really like the quick-release button system for emptying the bin. It's so easy, even a caveman could do it! Oh no he didn't...

I'm also hoping my battery life will improve over time...I've been using it less than a week and it's pretty terrible. I just charged it overnight (about 20 hours) and it was hardly able to complete one normal-sized room. Bummer. We'll see how that "3-hour quick charge" feature holds up in a few hours, I guess.

Overall though, amazing device. Not only will I be keeping mine, but I'm going to snag a few extras so I don't have to tote them up and down the stairs :D
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Post by K5ING »

I've always wondered how hard or expensive it would be for iRobot to put a rotating laser on top of the unit for range finding abilities thereby letting it recognize objects in it's path before it encountered them. Such a system would be able to recognize a chair leg (or multiple chair/table legs) and distinguish them from, say, a wall. It could virually map a room and it's objects ahead of time, and plan the best way to clean and how much time to spend in each room.
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Post by THX-1138 »

K5ING,

Something like you propose (good idea and it has been thought of many times, check the Hacking area in this forum) would raise the price of the robot into US$2000 - $3,000 or higher as of 2007 (Check out this Research done using SLAM). iRobot is definitely working on it and finding economical solutions to this request, many ask for it including myself!


kaidomac,

Some of your points are valid and known but others could be solved or have work arounds. Please check, if you haven't done so already, the "READ FIRST!" sticky, some if not all of you questions, concerns, gripes, etc. are discussed there. :wink:
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THX-1138 wrote:K5ING,

Something like you propose (good idea and it has been thought of many times, check the Hacking area in this forum) would raise the price of the robot into US$2000 - $3,000 or higher as of 2007 (Check out this Research done using SLAM). iRobot is definitely working on it and finding economical solutions to this request, many ask for it including myself!


kaidomac,

Some of your points are valid and known but others could be solved or have work arounds. Please check, if you haven't done so already, the "READ FIRST!" sticky, some if not all of you questions, concerns, gripes, etc. are discussed there. :wink:
Are you kidding? That's the first place I went when I was doing my research :D btw your cleaning guide is awesome! My two main gripes right now are poor stair performance and poor battery life. I'm not sure what to do about the stairs other than putting up a 2x4 or something. For the battery, I will take your advice for charging it for 72 hours and see if that helps. I figure its just new battery syndrome or something ;)

I don't think that the Roomba needs to be a $3,000 machine to function better; I just think that the addition of a couple more sensors and some additional programming could be extremely beneficial. If you understand the hardware and software systems involved with robotics and with vacuums, it's *nearly* a perfect machine for doing what it's designed to do. Like I said, it just needs a few tweaks to fine-tune it.

For example, I was showing it off to my wife today and explaining how the cliff sensor worked, and it proceeded to fall down the stairs while I was talking! I was kind of embarrassed because I was trying to sell her on the idea of having a fleet of iRobot machines cleaning our house and it screwed up right in front of us. Lucky for me she was impressed overall, but I don't trust my Roomba enough to leave it alone in a room with stairs.

Our main room has stairs on 2 sides, so it's not really easy to get enough material to cover both sets of stairs so that it doesn't fall down. The rest of the problems will get worked out, as far as structuring the environment. The stair issue will also be solved after we moved, but if you just want something that works out of the box perfectly, the Roomba isn't 100% ready to meet that yet. I'd say it's like 98% ready. If they can work on (1) the stair problem, (2) the "stuck" problem, and (3) the "low ceiling avoidance" problem, I think that more people would pick them up. Luckily it's only fallen down the short stairs...I'd hate to see it take a nosedive down the 14-step long stairs and get crushed.
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Post by THX-1138 »

Kaidomac,

Is your robot a brand new one or refurbished? I recommend that you run the diagnostics test and pay close attention to the IR sensor part if they fail or pass.

Also, in regards to your battery run time, is your rug low, medium or high pile? The higher the pile the worse run time you will get and the more life shortening stress would be given to your robot.

I agree as well as Irobot that making better robots is best for all but in the short term, room mapping robots will be expensive until the technology and/or methods get better and more economical.

Your issues :

1- Stairs issue: Much recommend that your run the diagnostics.

2- Stuck Problem : With current versions of Roomba you will have to "Roombarize" your home until they become more intelligent at the same price.

3- "low ceiling avoidence" : I can assure you that this will be implemented in the next version of Roomba since this option already exists on the Scooba and other cleaning robots as the Metapo QQ-1 and QQ-2.

Enjoy!

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THX-1138 wrote:Kaidomac,

Is your robot a brand new one or refurbished? I recommend that you run the diagnostics test and pay close attention to the IR sensor part if they fail or pass.

Also, in regards to your battery run time, is your rug low, medium or high pile? The higher the pile the worse run time you will get and the more life shortening stress would be given to your robot.

I agree as well as Irobot that making better robots is best for all but in the short term, room mapping robots will be expensive until the technology and/or methods get better and more economical.

Your issues :

1- Stairs issue: Much recommend that your run the diagnostics.

2- Stuck Problem : With current versions of Roomba you will have to "Roombarize" your home until they become more intelligent at the same price.

3- "low ceiling avoidence" : I can assure you that this will be implemented in the next version of Roomba since this option already exists on the Scooba and other cleaning robots as the Metapo QQ-1 and QQ-2.

Enjoy!

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The robot is a brand-new one from Buy.com. Can you elaborate on how to run the diagnostics? I checked the FAQ but the link didn't really explain much (does it void your warranty?).

The mapping idea is good, but it seems too complicated from a programming standpoint. What if I use my foot to bump the Roomba in a different direction? What if there is a laundry bin in the middle of the floor and the Roomba avoids that spot next time? I'm perfectly happy with the bump sensor system and circular/wall algorithms, but I'm pretty sure that the "instant replay" thing for getting itself un-stuck that I was talking about could be a simple software patch by way of firmware upgrade. I just read through a good chunk of the "Hacking Roomba" book on my last business trip (worth every penny and more!) and most of the hacks are non-invasive, so it seems that it's best just to wait and see what comes down the road as far as that goes.

Anyway, you're right, I just need to Roomba-proof my rooms, which is what I was expecting to have to do anyway. I just figured it would be a nice feature for people like my grandma who has had their home the same way for 30 years ;) Also I didn't know the Scooba had a ceiling detection system, that's pretty slick. At any rate, I'm very excited about my current Roomba and not really disappointed at all because of the research I had done.

Also I think my carpet would be classified as medium or medium-low pile.
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Re: List your Gripes with the Roomba vacuum

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kaidomac wrote:Before going on, this isn't a Roomba bashing thread. I just want to hear your gripes about your Roomba.
1. Charging circuitry is too sensitive to fluctuations. It is too easy for a random power surge (which affects absolutely nothing else in the house) to ruin the charging circuit of a Roomba. I call it a design flaw.

2. Better docking (caster wheel). It isn't good that the Roomba moves the base around as it docks/undocks(forwards, backwards, sideways). Even on a solid wood floor. As well, as I commented on in another thread, it isn't good that it decides to power off before it gives the power connection time to stabilize. Nothing like seeing your Roomba dock automatically but not go into charge mode because it didn't make a connection for more than .5 seconds.

3. Adjustable brush depth. The consumer (or power user) should be able to strike their own balance between how deep the brushes go into the carpet versus the ease of mobilitiy of the unit. (My earlier unit was very mobile, but the brushes were less engaged. My replacement was less mobile, but the brushes were more engaged into the carpet.)

4. Better hacking. It'll probably never happen, but I wish that iRobot would give us a full set of cleaning code to work with. That way, when I see a bad behavior that I want to correct (like not waiting long enough before powering down after docking), I can correct that small piece and still have all the functionality still there. Put a different way: you can hack, but you can't TWEAK. And tweaking something is the very basis of many people's desire to hack something. This could also result in some nice fan-driven iterative improvements in the robot's software.

5. Cooler cases. Transluscent colors are good. Photoluminescent cases that react to internal uv lights are good (if that is safe). EDIT: Maybe some neon, too. Sure it'll reduce cleaning time, but some of us prefer just a tiny bit more style, even at the expense of function.

EDIT: Made main points easier to follow with bolding.
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Re: List your Gripes with the Roomba vacuum

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jmccorm wrote:
kaidomac wrote:Before going on, this isn't a Roomba bashing thread. I just want to hear your gripes about your Roomba.
1. Charging circuitry is too sensitive to fluctuations. It is too easy for a random power surge (which affects absolutely nothing else in the house) to ruin the charging circuit of a Roomba. I call it a design flaw.

2. Better docking (caster wheel). It isn't good that it moves around the base (forwards, backwards, sideways). As well, as I commented on in another thread, it isn't good that it decides to power off before it gives the power connection time to stabilize. Nothing like seeing your Roomba dock automatically but not go into charge mode because it didn't make a connection for more than .5 seconds.

3. The consumer (or power user) should be able to strike their own balance between how deep the brushes go into the carpet versus the ease of mobilitiy of the unit. (My earlier unit was very mobile, but the brushes were less engaged. My replacement was less mobile, but the brushes were more engaged into the carpet.)

4. Better hacking. It'll probably never happen, but I wish that iRobot would give us a full set of cleaning code to work with. That way, when I see a bad behavior that I want to correct (like not waiting long enough before powering down after docking), I can correct that small piece and still have all the functionality still there. Put a different way: you can hack, but you can't TWEAK. And tweaking something is the very basis of many people's desire to hack something. This could also result in some nice fan-driven iterative improvements in the robot's software.

5. Cooler cases. Transluscent colors are good. Photoluminescent cases that react to internal uv lights are good (if that is safe).
I totally agree with the hacking part. You have to build your own SCI/ROI library from scratch for doing even the simplest command via computers. And even with that, you can't tinker with the internal firmware to add nifty features or change things. I think that we are fortunate to have the Hacking Roomba book available to read...I've learned things that would have taken me months or years if I had done it myself, but I've come to the realization that you can't really get inside the Rooma to tweak things like you want. You can add remote scheduling and control, webcams, small PC command systems, but you can't add new features to the Roomba's operating system (at least not easily!).

I also agree with #5 - just look at iPods. The aftermarket market is even bigger than the iPod market. Nearly every iPod I see on the street is customized in some way. People like to make their stuff feel personal and fit in with their view of their lives. However based on the numbers that they are reporting for earnings, I can see why it is difficult to offer more than a few colors right now. Someday, maybe...
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1. Small Dustbin This was my number one reason for returning my first roomba. With a dalmation in the house, it was full of hair after about 10 minutes of cleaning. Since I bought it to do away with the majority of regular vac duties, it didn't work out well. My new roomba is confined to the kitchen area, and so far it's still sucking up till it's done cleaning the kitchen floors. Of course it has to be emptied when it's finished, but since the area is smaller, it can do the whole kitchen without my intervention.

2. virtual wall units I'd really have liked to see them use a beam straight out instead of at the 45 degree angles so that they can be placed exactly where I want them without guessing where the angle of beam will go.

Other than that, this roomba's a great little time saver for my kitchen/dining area. I spent 3 hours scrubbing the kitchen/dining floors by hand with a stiff bristle brush, vowing never to let them look like they did ever again. With the roombas help I shouldn't have to scrub them nearly as often as I have in the past. Next purchase will be the scuba.
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If you have another roomba now, I think you'll notice the bin filling up much less with each use. I ran mine every day for the first few weeks. Then went to about every other day. I run it 3 days a week now and the bin is about half-full (or half-empty for the pessimists). This is with a shedding greyhound in the height of shedding season.

The beam on the virtual walls is fairly straight, probably about a 5 degree angle. I think it does depend on the setting, though.

Go ahead and get that Scooba! You'll truly be disgusted with what you've been walking on for so long. :P
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kamidan wrote:1. Small Dustbin This was my number one reason for returning my first roomba. With a dalmation in the house, it was full of hair after about 10 minutes of cleaning. Since I bought it to do away with the majority of regular vac duties, it didn't work out well. My new roomba is confined to the kitchen area, and so far it's still sucking up till it's done cleaning the kitchen floors. Of course it has to be emptied when it's finished, but since the area is smaller, it can do the whole kitchen without my intervention.

2. virtual wall units I'd really have liked to see them use a beam straight out instead of at the 45 degree angles so that they can be placed exactly where I want them without guessing where the angle of beam will go.

Other than that, this roomba's a great little time saver for my kitchen/dining area. I spent 3 hours scrubbing the kitchen/dining floors by hand with a stiff bristle brush, vowing never to let them look like they did ever again. With the roombas help I shouldn't have to scrub them nearly as often as I have in the past. Next purchase will be the scuba.
The Virtual Wall unit is still a bit of a concern for me. Right now I just angle it away from the cleaning area so the side of the beam cone is less angled into the cleaning area. The rep I spoke with at iRobot suggested taping a notecard to the side to restrict the beam (he said that worked for him). I don't understand why they put in an adjustable beam but not an adjustable "narrowness". Oh well.
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kaidomac wrote:
kamidan wrote:1. Small Dustbin This was my number one reason for returning my first roomba. With a dalmation in the house, it was full of hair after about 10 minutes of cleaning. Since I bought it to do away with the majority of regular vac duties, it didn't work out well. My new roomba is confined to the kitchen area, and so far it's still sucking up till it's done cleaning the kitchen floors. Of course it has to be emptied when it's finished, but since the area is smaller, it can do the whole kitchen without my intervention.

2. virtual wall units I'd really have liked to see them use a beam straight out instead of at the 45 degree angles so that they can be placed exactly where I want them without guessing where the angle of beam will go.

Other than that, this roomba's a great little time saver for my kitchen/dining area. I spent 3 hours scrubbing the kitchen/dining floors by hand with a stiff bristle brush, vowing never to let them look like they did ever again. With the roombas help I shouldn't have to scrub them nearly as often as I have in the past. Next purchase will be the scuba.
The Virtual Wall unit is still a bit of a concern for me. Right now I just angle it away from the cleaning area so the side of the beam cone is less angled into the cleaning area. The rep I spoke with at iRobot suggested taping a notecard to the side to restrict the beam (he said that worked for him). I don't understand why they put in an adjustable beam but not an adjustable "narrowness". Oh well.
My main concern/ wish is with:
VIRTUAL WALL: I wish it had a straight beam..with a red lazer pointer type light so you can exactly see the invisible line.
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I'd also like to see the remote use some other technology then what it does, so that I don't have to walk over to the roomba itself to use the remote. I'd like to be able to use it from the living room while the roomba is in the kitchen without having to walk over to the kitchen, as it is now, all it really does is prevent me from having to lean down to hit the buttons on the roomba, which as long as I've had to walk near to the roomba, I might as well just lean down and hit the buttons on the roomba itself instead of using the remote.
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Just give me better reliability. It seems the gears in the brush assembly wear out very quickly and dust gets into all the workings too easily. I just want a Roomba with metal gears and better sealed inards so you don't have to blow it out with compressed air and vacuum itself off. A better sealed dust path would be great. That way just using it won't lead to it's demise. A little better suction would be better too. I love my Roomba, I just want it to last longer.
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New Roomba owner here. Just found this thread trying to do a search for "tracks". The tracks that my Roomba is making that bother me aren't in the carpet though (I kind of like those), its the tracks that it is leaving across the mahogany floors. You can clearly see where its been, I'm worried that the brushes are actually scratching the floor. Where it runs along the wall the scratches are extremely noticeable. I was watching it work on a section of floor where the sunlight was hitting and I noticed that as it passed over the floor even with one pass it was leaving these tracks. They're everywhere now. Hopefully the owner won't notice, but its making me nervous.

I also can't use the Roomba on our bedroom carpet. This carpet is the reason I wanted the Roomba in the first place, because it is shedding (its new) and there are fuzz balls from it in the hallway all the time. I figured since I've got it cleaning the hall and the hardwood floors I'd try it on the carpet too. It has a noticeably harder time moving around on the carpet and the brushes get jammed full of the carpet fuzz. I love the way it leaves the carpet looking, but I'm worried that all of the fuzz everywhere in the brushes and in all the cracks and crevices will ruin the Roomba. I'm back to just using the normal vacuum for these rooms.

I haven't had any gripes about charging time. When we got the Roomba a 2 weeks ago it was ready to go after less than an hour out of the box. Its been pulling heavy duty ever since, at least 4 cleaning cycles per day. I move it around the house from room to room and move the base station with it so it can charge when its done. Since I installed the rubber bumper (Foamie) it seems to be having a harder time docking into the charger though, its kind of hit or miss. Sometimes it'll try again and again and again until the battery is so depleted that it gives up. When it did this on the hardwood floor its brush scratches left a noticeable grey spot on the floor from all the back and forth it was doing.

The only other complaint I've got is really pretty minor. We have white baseboards and it was leaving marks all over them. Thats why I installed the Foamie bumper. Now the bumper picks up static and collects dust, then leaves that on the things it bumps into. Better than the scratches I guess.
kaidomac
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Post by kaidomac »

room-blah! wrote:
kaidomac wrote:
kamidan wrote:1. Small Dustbin This was my number one reason for returning my first roomba. With a dalmation in the house, it was full of hair after about 10 minutes of cleaning. Since I bought it to do away with the majority of regular vac duties, it didn't work out well. My new roomba is confined to the kitchen area, and so far it's still sucking up till it's done cleaning the kitchen floors. Of course it has to be emptied when it's finished, but since the area is smaller, it can do the whole kitchen without my intervention.

2. virtual wall units I'd really have liked to see them use a beam straight out instead of at the 45 degree angles so that they can be placed exactly where I want them without guessing where the angle of beam will go.

Other than that, this roomba's a great little time saver for my kitchen/dining area. I spent 3 hours scrubbing the kitchen/dining floors by hand with a stiff bristle brush, vowing never to let them look like they did ever again. With the roombas help I shouldn't have to scrub them nearly as often as I have in the past. Next purchase will be the scuba.
The Virtual Wall unit is still a bit of a concern for me. Right now I just angle it away from the cleaning area so the side of the beam cone is less angled into the cleaning area. The rep I spoke with at iRobot suggested taping a notecard to the side to restrict the beam (he said that worked for him). I don't understand why they put in an adjustable beam but not an adjustable "narrowness". Oh well.
My main concern/ wish is with:
VIRTUAL WALL: I wish it had a straight beam..with a red lazer pointer type light so you can exactly see the invisible line.
That is SUCH a good idea - a little red laser dot to show you where the straight beam is going. Ahhh I like that!
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Roomba gripes

Post by Grrrrrr »

My wife bought one of the original Roombas about 3 years ago. To say I was sceptical would be an understatement. However in 3 years we've had almost no trouble at all and it has been a Godsend. Exactly what Tomorrow's World is all about. Robots doing the menial jobs so we can develop ourselves etc. However, 2 things have cropped up over the years which could do with a little thought:

1) The tyres. We have laminate floors downstairs and short pile carpets upstairs yet the tyres are lucky to last a year. Maybe it is because we have quite small rooms so it is turning alot. Fortunately the tyres superglue really easily and the fix seems to last longer than the rest of the tyre. I have one tyre now that is banded with superglue ridges!

2) Twice now I've had to clean the optical sensors in the wheels to stop the infamous 'circle of death dance.' Considered drilling a small hole to enable easy access to the elusive 4th wheel hub screw but I'm quite adept at stripping the whole thing down now and it gives me a chance to clean the whole thing inside and out. A decent service once a year is deserved, I think! For the record I just dust with a soft paintbrush with a hoover I use for dirty jobs to catch the dust. Seems to work fine.

Only other thing I can think of is the battery life but I guess we're limited to current technology on that one. Not sure what the new Roombas are like but if they're anything like our old one I'd recommend it to anyone.
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reliability

Post by RoombaDude »

I think it's funny, most of us on the board don't mind taking apart our roomba's and cleaning them. But I irobot should realize that most people don't have that mind set with a regular vacuum so when they take a chance on a Roomba they are disappointed at the fact that they need to do this OR don't realize they need to do it.

And why should they I maybe had to take my beater brush apart on my old vac 2 times a year and replace belts maybe every 1-2 years.

I think it's something that needs to get addressed.
To keep Roomba's in top performance.

-Chris
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